and, look, in ohio, which the republicans have to win, romney has to win, where barack obama is still leading, still leading wisconsin and iowa and nevada. that is his fire wall, and unless romney can break through that he won't win the election. >> his fire wall used to include florida and virginia and they're not talking about that as fire wall states anymore with romney ahead in florida. the very fact that michigan and pennsylvania, which obama carried by 16 points and 10 points four years ago -- have gotten close i think has to be an indication that the affluent suburbs, oakland, macomb, livingston in michigan, have been moving towards romney in a significant way, and i think that the democrats are giving you static analysis there. and i think there may be a dynamic at work here. the affluent suburbs are places that people generally tend to turn out in large numbers, and we've seen signs that republicans have more enthusiasm this year. i think one reason ohio is closer is that affluent suburban counties are only an eighth of the statewide votes and a warsmer michigan. >> the romne